Episode 16

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17th Jun 2026

The Human Systems Every Transformation Needs with Brice Challamel

Why does AI adoption hit a wall inside large organizations? Brice Challamel joins to unpack what he's learned while leading people-first transformation at orgs like Moderna, and now at OpenAI as Head of AI Strategy and Adoption.

Brice shares his five components for supporting transformation, and what playfulness has to do with making AI stick. Plus: why Brice thinks the AI layoff narrative is wrong, and his case for a Nintendo as a super organization.

Watch this episode on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/fA80GvnAxCk

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About the Podcast

Supercompanies with Greg Shove
The smartest companies building the future
AI’s capabilities are exploding, and the rules of business are being rewritten in real-time. Join veteran tech CEO Greg Shove and a lineup of world-class AI experts and business leaders as they explore the rise of the supercompany: a high-impact, AI-native organization that favors autonomous operations over massive headcount. Whether you're building a new organization or a professional looking to thrive as a superemployee, we move past the hype to show you how. For more information, head to www.supercompanies.ai.

Supercompanies is on YouTube, too: https://youtube.com/@Supercompaniespod

Greg Shove is CEO of SectionAI, an upskilling and education consultancy that helps enterprise organizations incorporate AI in their workforces. As a seven-time CEO working in tech since before the Y2K scare, Greg Shove has seen it all - or most of it anyway. From early days at AOL to founding seven new tech companies, Greg knows how to bypass the hype and gain practical knowledge. For more information, head to http://www.gregshove.com.